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California Supreme Court overturns state ban on gay marriage.

Initial reaction: WOOT! THIS IS SO AWESOME AND FULL OF WIN!

Secondary reaction: Squee to all and sundry!

Tertiary reaction, after squeeing at a law student: Oh. ._.

In [livejournal.com profile] jacks_shadow's words: "The odds of a State Consititutional amendment being added to California is now higher, in my opinion, because the highest court in the State looked at the voters and said, 'If you want to ban gay marriage, you're going to have to pass a law we can't overturn.'"

Well, technically [livejournal.com profile] jacks_shadow is done with law school, but he hasn't taken the bar yet, so I guess he qualifies as a larval lawyer? Dunno. But he made an excellent point: though this ruling is a mighty strike for justice and equality, it also greatly increases the chances of a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage passing (especially considering that consititutional amendments in California only require a simple majority at a referendum--50.1% means no fabulous gay weddings for Californians).

The small comfort is that even the Governator supports this ruling and has said he's not down with any constitutional amendment overturning it.

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Date: 2008-05-15 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jadeprince.livejournal.com
That said, I would FAR rather be given this ruling, have this victory, get it taken away and fight even harder to get it back than for the ruling today to have been against us.

1 step forward, 2 steps back is still better than never moving at all.

Also, the more mainstream the subject becomes, and the more it's talked about, debated and bandied around, the more used to the idea the whole country becomes and eventually the more comfortable with it.

Publicity is GOOD.

Yay.

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Date: 2008-05-15 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
Amen to that. This ruling is fabulous because it DOES get the subject on the table again. Instead of people going "Eh, the status quo works," they actually have to think about how they're going to vote on this, and hopefully they'll vote for what you and I consider to be right, fair, and just. The main issue is all those assholes who disagree with us and the fact that we're not allowed to kill them. >>;

I want very badly to believe in the wonderful people of California and their respect for equality for all people, and I'm really not trying to be a party pooper here. ;_; I just have an unpleasant habit of discussing the nasty parts of reality, especially when they've been pointed out to me.

I will happily break out the party streamers for you guys, but I'm gonna hold off on the champagne and strippers until that referendum occurs and the amendment fails.

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Date: 2008-05-15 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-trillian.livejournal.com
F-locked--no can see. ;_; And heaven only knows that you and Jess know Californians as a group waaaaay better than I do. If I'm being unrealistically pessimistic about the number of right-wingers, social conservatives, and irrationally frightened soccer moms California has, please correct me--in this case, I'd love to be completely off base.

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Date: 2008-05-16 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orange-smaug.livejournal.com
The original ban passed with about 60% of voters in favor I think, which means this decision will in all likelihood be overturned in November. I wish our proposition system wasn't so retarded :(. Still glad it happened though, and it's certainly better than them not striking it down in the first place :D.

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